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Message 7 of 7
Posted by member Peter Cox on Monday 6 November 2023

I'm told that PBO will carry a new article in February 2024.

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Message 6 of 7
Posted by member Peter Cox on Monday 6 November 2023

The PBO article: https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/calor-gas-alternatives-for-boat-owners-77076

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Message 5 of 7
Posted by member Tony Weald on Sunday 5 November 2023

* Further to discussion on this subject please see article in Practical Boat Owner, October 23, pages 6 and 7.
Not much good news I'm afraid, however it did state that the Westerly Owners Association had surveyed their members and recommended writing to the Competition and Markets Authority.
Personally I feel this would have more traction coming from owners groups of affected boats, caravans and motor homes, rather than individuals.
Thanks, Tony

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Posted by member Nick Askham on Monday 30 October 2023

Hi Tony - many thanks for locating the earlier thread; I had searched the website before but obviously not thoroughly enough.
I had thought, and hoped, that the Flogas 4.5kg butane bottle was going to be an easy answer - how foolish of me !!! Reference to the Flogas website gives the following information :

"Currently we can only process orders for this gas bottle if you have an equivalent empty gas bottle to return".

In other words, "no Flogas cylinder, no gas!". I phoned Flogas this morning and was told, just as the website, that they will only do a refill and NOT sell any cylinders. I asked whether they were, like Calor, going to phase that size out but the person I spoke to was fairly non-committal or didn't know. I asked how one could thus proceed and where would one obtain a cylinder. His reply was that one should either search Flogas depots or look on places like eBay and Facebook marketplace; very reassuring. It seems a conundrum to say the least. With that information I am no further forward, so to speak.

Thank you also for your comments about alcohol stoves. I may well look into the Campingaz cylinders as well.

Regards and thanks, Nick.

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Message 3 of 7
Posted by member Tony Weald on Monday 30 October 2023

Nick, found previous postings:
See Misc. Navigator gas bottle location, June 2023

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Message 2 of 7
Posted by member Tony Weald on Sunday 29 October 2023

Hi Nick, in common with many owners we have the same issue with our Mariner gas locker, caused by the withdrawal of the 4.5 kg calor bottle.
There were earlier posts on this (under a different heading?) but I can't find at the moment.
I believe that the 3.9 kg Flogas might fit but haven't tried yet.
It was also suggested that main Calor gas depots might refill 4.5kg by appointment. Again not tried.
Years ago I had a twin burner alcohol stove. Bit of a faff starting, using heating cup of fluid around burner. The main issue then was getting the alcohol which I used to buy in France! May be different now.
Campinggaz type equipment has also been suggested.
Not much help, sorry, Tony

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Posted by member Nick Askham on Sunday 29 October 2023

Hello - the supply for the cooker on my Pilot is a 4.5kg butane Calor gas cylinder. As many know this size is being phased out by Calor. The 7kg bottle is considerably taller and probably won't fit in the gas locker. Flogas do a 4.5kg bottle though their website states that new bottles are currently unavailable; whether this means that they also intend to stop using that size I do not know. I wonder, therefore, if anyone has any more information on this topic.
I have thought about an alcohol stove but have no experience of them so more information would be good.
Hoping folk can shed some light on either of these two possibilities.
Regards and thanks, Nick.

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