Message 8 of 8
Posted by member Colin Hewitson on Friday 13 January 2023
Hi Morgan,
I did wonder about the vent above the door, most often the obvious is the first place to look!
Well done too for determining the major cause but whatever you do, dont permanently seal up the ventilation grille as this ventilates the cabin area, if the fisher has any gas appliances (may not) then Carbon monoxide poisoning could be a risk, also, you could experience increased condensation/mould related problems inside the cabin/wheelhouse areas.
Maybe consider fitting a cowl over the vent grille, something like - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Terracotta-Hooded-Bricks-Grilles-Extractors/dp/B00GOVP7UC/ref=asc_df_B00GOVP7UC/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=255997889218&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15564162768374903359&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046757&hvtargid=pla-445673070634&psc=1
This is a plastic type but they are also available in stainless steel - something like this may cut down on the problem while maintaining good ventilation!
It will have to be fitted without obstructing door opening of course.
You could use some clear silicone sealant around the rubber door seals etc as per my previous post!
Good luck with this - looks like you are on the way to resolving your problem, however, from my experience, boat cabins are never completely dry!
atb
Col.
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Message 5 of 8
Posted by member colin on Monday 17 October 2022
Hi Morgan, just noticed the apparent water staining on the inside bottom panel of the open doors in one of the photos, this would possibly be another point of entry as any water running down the panel and getting in could build up against the bottom seal and finding it's way in.
Again, clear siliconing the outer face of panel joints could be the solution, just suggesting.
Having spent many years trying to locate water ingress into buildings/roofs as a Building Maintenance Surveyor has left it's scars, thankfully, I am now retired!
Good luck!
Col.
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Message 4 of 8
Posted by member colin on Monday 17 October 2022
Hi Morgan, I presume the water ingress to the doors is happening at the top and running down the inside face of the doors and collecting at the base? Have you stood inside when heavy rain is hitting the doors and observed this? (someone on the outside with a spray bottle could assist on a dry day)
(The water ingress couldn't be via the vent above the door?)
If so, I would have a couple of comments;
It looks like you have fitted the double d type collapsible rubber seals to the head and sides of the frame. My experience of these type of seals is very good, especially the double d type as effectively, there are two barriers for the water to get past.
Are these being universally compressed correctly when the doors are closed on them, additionally when the doors are in the closed position, do the doors sit flush with the frame, ie, the seals are not pushing the doors away from the frame so that any water running down from above is running onto the exposed top edge of the doors and back into the rebate? In my experience, thick rubber seals can force the door away from the rebate if the frame wasn’t designed to allow for them.
The problem (I assume) will be rain driven by the wind onto the face of the doors, this will seek out any slight sealing problems and may be difficult to eradicate completely.
The fact the wheelhouse roof projects over and extended above the doors should help, however, if heavy rain is wind driven onto the face of the doors, this feature could even help direct the water towards any ‘weak spots’ in the seals and exploit them.
Assuming that the seals are indeed compressing evenly all around the closed doors correctly.
If I had fitted the seals, I would have run the top seal fully across the extent of the top door opening with the leg or side seals running below and down from it, this would remove the slight inclination from any water being blown onto the top seal to find its way past the seal at this point, additionally, the use of some clear silicone sealant (God's gift to mariners and glass outbuildings etc) at this point would also help, indeed you could try this first with your installation?
The problem with seals is they can hold water 'captive' and allow it to find the easiest route in/past them.
If your boat is ‘captive’ in a marina, the prevailing wind direction may be against you at your mooring,(Ie, driving into/onto the doors) this would be less likely on a swinging type mooring as the boat will always face into the prevailing wind and therefore driving rain will be away from the doors.
If it’s water running down onto the top of the door, I would be inclined to fit a machined moulding/nosing onto the top edge of the frame above the doors incorporating a drip feature, similar to that fitted on traditional wooden house doors, (at the bottom) this would also help prevent water running down from accessing the top.
I hope all this makes sense and you do not think I am trying to ‘teach Granny to suck eggs’ You may have already considered all this, just trying to explain what I would be looking at, not suggesting it’s what you should do.
The fairly obvious thing is, if you can find where the water is getting in, therein lies the problem and a fix will be evident, probably including our savior clear silicone!
Good luck with your solution for your lovely boat!
Col.
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I have a continual problem with water ingress through the double doors on my Fishing 24. Have renewed the seals but problem persists. I would appreciate if any members have also encountered this and particularly anybody has devised a solution?