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Message 19 of 19
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Tuesday 14 July 2020
This is the door in the open position.As you can see, the double hinges open out a little, which is why I added the third hinge.
With a "piano" or continuous cabinet style hinge, this twisting would not happen as much, but as in all things, it is what is available to buy.
No more stowage issues for the upper part of the door, and the smaller top hach cover sits neatly between the table stowage and the aft bulkhead of the galley unit.
Clive
Message 18 of 19
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Tuesday 14 July 2020
The job on the hinges has finally been done.Using the double hinge solution certainly works, and enables the door to open far more easily past 90 degrees (or in our case previously with the original single hinges, just less than 90 degrees).
Not the ideal look when closed, but until I can find some brass hinges a little more in keeping, then these nickel coated steel ones will have to do. Short season this year anyway!
The cabin door may look a bit more like a door to a cell like this, but it is functional and practical!
I added the third hinge as it gave a little more rigidity with the double hinges in the open position.
Clive
Message 17 of 19
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Wednesday 1 July 2020
Think I've found another solution...Now going to try using "double hinges" on the lower door, that will then enable a much greater fold-back. This will negate the need to trim a piece off the upper fold-down section as proposed in my sketch of 27 June, and a significantly simpler job!
The only ones so far identified are nickel plated steel made by Penn Elcom - easily available on ebay at £2.95 each. I've bought three in case two do not do job. If I can find brass or stainless somewhere, I will probably swap them for next year if these do the job.
Not sure yet until we get back to boat if the extra section of hinge will be over door or over frame - I have made some spacers to aid fitting on to front of helm panel if needed. I will photo when job done.
May need an extra bolt on the inside of the lower door, on the hinge side, to secure against any likely slight floppiness of the door on the extended hinge.
Clive
Message 13 of 19
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 June 2020
Clive,I used stainless steel piano hinge fixed to edge of doors. It means you can offset hinge to clear butt hinges on bottom door.
I also fitted bronzed finger pull handle to help open top door only from cabin side without slamming down onto lower door.
Like your detailed sketch.
Regards,
Kenny
Message 12 of 19
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Saturday 27 June 2020
It took us a while, but we have finally implemented Kenny's solution (see his photo below) of a hinge-down upper door panel, which has solved some stowage issues of the loose panel in the cockpit. The upper door now folds neatly down over the lower door, and the lower door hinges open as before. Easy solution - just needed to screw two nice brass hinges to outside of door when in closed position.Except... slightly daftly unforeseen, the lower door now of course does not open back as far as before, because the upper panel, when folded down, now prevents it from doing so, in fact to somewhat less than 90deg. Though Kenny has acheived greater than 90deg by the look of his photo.
The only proposed solution I have so far is to cut a 3/4" piece (carefully with guided jigsaw) off the side of the upper panel, and then turn this round and attach it to the door frame as shown in this sketch, thus allowing the folded down door panels to hinge back further than 90deg to around 110deg. The door does not need to fold back further, due to the helm seat (if hinged up into seating position) or lifebuoy mounted below the helm (if helm seat is hinged down to its stowage position).
Anyone got any better ideas?
Thanks,
Clive
Message 9 of 19
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 21 April 2018
Cabin door open position.Kenny
Message 8 of 19
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 21 April 2018
Cabin boor closed position.
Message 4 of 19
Posted by member Phil ashton on Monday 2 April 2018
Hi, cant say what original was but this is what i did to the door in my Navigator ..
Message 3 of 19
Posted by member Alan on Saturday 31 March 2018
Thanks for the reply. In the photo my new hatch is in the seagoing position. A second hinge on the forward end allows tithe whole thing to open to sit vertical when full access is required. The door part is at the moment a single piece of ply which due to its size is awkward to stow away . I was wondering what the original setup would have been when built I.e washboards or a two piece door hinged at either end with a vertical split. If this was the case did they open into the cabin or out into the wheelhouse.Cheers
Alan
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