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Message 18 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 May 2017

* Corner connector, to form 90deg angle. Still looking for fitting that would give 135deg angle which would look more like the typical Davit shape. Kenny

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Message 17 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 May 2017

* Alternative to adjustable transom fixing. This could only be used on horizontal face fixing. Kenny

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Message 16 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 May 2017

* End socket photo to hang shackles. Kenny

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Message 15 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 May 2017

* Marie, Option 4 - DIY is probably least expensive. Aluminium tube (25mm, 32mm or 48mm O/D) and connectors to fit with hex screws. Will need to use the following to form pair of davits: 1) Adjustable bracket 2no. - for main fixing of tube to horizontal/vertical face of transom. (As photo) 2) Corner connector 2no. - to join tube to form inverted 'L' shape davit. 3) End socket 2no. - to hang shackles. 4) Aluminium tube - four sections cut to required length and polished. 5) Brace 2no. - to secure inverted 'L' davit shape. Might be S/S threaded rod or similar that takes the load of dinghy. 6) Cleate 2no.- to tie off. 7) Set of pulley blocks and line. Will let you know if I have a go at this option. Kenny

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Message 14 of 18
Posted by member HOC Editor on Sunday 21 May 2017

Hi Kenny, Thanks for getting back with this information. I have looked into this for myself, and so far have not made a decision as to what to do. The problem with the Family Pilot as you have already pointed out, is still maintaining vision aft. With the FP and its outboard as opposed to a craft with inboard and fitted with say a bathing platform arrangement the situation is so totally different. The latter is half way there as regards having somewhere to store the dinghy and fit davits. I still do not know what to do, but as I've been struggling to resolve this issue for some time, I do believe that in the end we will have to resort to some sort of modification to the Pilot's transom. Everything so far that I've tried to consider I feel will not look quite right, that is in my mind's eye at least. If anyone has already sorted this successfully, please do join this thread with your findings. Once again, thanks Kenny. All the best, Marie

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Message 13 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 21 May 2017

* Marie, Option 1 swim platform arrangement to sit above outboard. This is my least favourite option, as bracket would have to be fixed well above outboard. Keen to here if any others have come up with good solution. Regards, Kenny

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Message 12 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 21 May 2017

* Marie, Option 2 photo with hinged transom bracket. Kenny

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Message 11 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 21 May 2017

* Marie, Still considering a few options to carry inflated dinghy. Looking to store dinghy at transom, ensure good vision when it sits above outboard. Also want it to look part of the boat, keeping clean lines if possible. Option 1 Swim platform brackets x2 arrangement with slatted timber rack. This would carry dinghy just above outboard motor in horizontal position. Pros - allows vision to stern. Cons - rack looks a bit bulky particularly when dinghy not stored. Option 2 Folding davits with transom fixing bracket. Pros -looks pretty good, easy to load, unload dinghy. Cons - Davits might sit too high above outboard. Checking dimensions. Might need to get fixing brackets specially made. Photo attached on next post. Option 3 Swivel davits with flush/socket fixing bracket. Pros - Marinescene selling pair complete with blocks, pulleys £299. Cons - Flush mount fixing plate although less obtrusive. There is not an obvious place to recess bracket on top of transom. May have to make a block to house plate.Photo attached.

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Message 10 of 18
Posted by member HOC Editor on Friday 31 March 2017

Hi Kenny, Nice to hear from you - yes please as regards info on how you get on with the davits made to spec. I would still like to improve on that particular arrangement myself. If you can get this right, I think that there will be quite a few HOC members interested. Have a good weekend and season. Marie

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Message 9 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Friday 31 March 2017

Marie, Eventually purchased 2.1mtr Waveline for 2016 season. Tried towing at various speeds, on off wake. Seems to tow better well aft of stern at 15knts. Did notice effect on fuel whilst towing over 10 miles. Looking at lightweight lift off, folding or swivel davits made to spec. Don't want to spoil Pilot 20 lines. Still like dinghy to look part of boat, not like an ad-on, if you know what I mean. Ex stock Davits £300+ which may not do the job. Will let you know if I get a solution. Kenny

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Message 8 of 18
Posted by member hardy editor on Saturday 27 February 2016

Hi Kenny, I would be first in the queue if you did that, because I have been racking my brains for ages trying to figure something like that out. It is the issue of vision aft that has me stumped. I would love to here from you if you manage it. Good luck, and all the best, Marie

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Message 7 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 27 February 2016

* Marie, You may have convinced me on 2.1 Waveline. Heading down to Marina tomorrow. Want to look at making a rack that allows inflated dinghy to traverse, aft of canopy, above outboard and still allow clear vision. Easier said than done! If I manage a practical way of doing this will let you know. Appreciate your advice. Thanks, Kenny

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Message 6 of 18
Posted by member hardy editor on Saturday 27 February 2016

Hi Kenny, I forgot to add, that I am about to renew my mast as well, so I think I will be able to arrange everything a bit better on my wheelhouse roof. It's all trial and error at the moment....a lot of error, but then again that's how you work stuff out I guess. Keep well and all the best, Marie

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Message 5 of 18
Posted by member hardy editor on Saturday 27 February 2016

* Hi Kenny, The picture looks a bit compressed on here, so both my dinghy and Family Pilot as not that squashed !! :-) Yes, you can get two in her - just - it is supposed to be a 2+1 so we were reckoning on two plus dogs... What I do is set her so the transom is forward and the tubes sit either side of my mast. The weight, such as it is, is supported mainly by the coach roof and so does not press too much on the canopy. I must admit that when I do get around to radar and reflector, I will have to think carefully. I could not see a way to have davits, and having anything at all on the foredeck cuts down visibility. In some situations, I can tow her, but I prefer this way when on tidal. I know that some members keep their dinghy partially inflated and on top of their anchor well, but I thought I would try this, and it seems to work ok. All the best, Marie

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Message 4 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 27 February 2016

Thanks Marie, Quite like the look of your 2.1mtr. It does not look out of place topside due to size. Can you get two adults on this? Would only be for occasional use, so two at a sqeeeze would not be a problem for sort trip ashore. I have radar dome and reflector on wheelhouse to content with.Just need to find onboard solution to store inflated. Regards, Kenny

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Message 3 of 18
Posted by member hardy editor on Wednesday 24 February 2016

* Sorry Kenny, lost the picture off of my previous post. Here it is. All the best, Marie

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Message 2 of 18
Posted by member hardy editor on Wednesday 24 February 2016

Ahoy Kenny, I went for the Waveline Super Light. It looks a bit like the D3, but it is cheaper. Anyway, so far I’m very pleased. My one is attached on my Family Pilot 20 wheelhouse coach roof, ready to go, when I’m underway. It is a 2.1 and weighs 21 kg. This particular one has a slatted floor, and a rigid transom, and I can lift it fairly easily even though I’m 66 and have a dodgy arm! They do produce a 2.3 as well, but I’m not sure of its weight. These craft are imported by Marathon Leisure, Hampshire. Picture attached – waiting at the sea lock. Good luck and all the best, Marie

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Message 1 of 18
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Wednesday 24 February 2016

Looking to purchase ultralight 2.25mtr dinghy with air deck to carry onboard my HP20. The Seago O2 18kg weight is ideal compared to standard dinghies around 30kg. Looking for advice on durability, maintenance of ultralight v standard dinghy. Cheers, Kenny

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