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Message 15 of 15
Posted by member Trevor on Wednesday 21 September 2016
I have a relatively new rope fender on a Pilot 20 and want to look after it.What should I do and does the water seal approach work? Any information would be useful.
Many thanks
Trevor
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Message 14 of 15
Posted by member Rob on Thursday 28 May 2015
Hello all
I have decided to renew my rope fender.
I think I will be able to fit it on my own without too much of a problem.
I am looking at getting a synthetic one. Can anyone recommend a supplier for this material. Mail order will be fine. I have seen some suppliers for synthetic rope in the forum but some are old posts.
I have seen advertised, Marine grade Stainless Steel Ties designed for the Hardy pilot, navigator, regatta, and 25. Has anyone used these, please?
Thanks
Rob
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Message 13 of 15
Posted by member Hardy Editor on Sunday 24 May 2015
Hi Simon,
I'm with you on this one - I don't understand it at all. It might be a bit fiddly the first time you do it, but it is just a matter of common sense and patience really. I take my fender off regularly and I get it back on ok without any problems - I just take my time.
Thanks for your offer, because even though some of these posts are old ones, we still get the same kind of questions regarding rope fenders. There is plenty of information on the Forum about this topic now, and we have covered it a couple of times in past issues of the Hardy Owner magazines.
So get in touch with Simon if your fender is still causing you problems.
Regards,
Marie
Editor
HOC
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Message 12 of 15
Posted by member Simon Papendick on Sunday 24 May 2015
Hi folks,
I would love to know why it take so many people to fit a rope fender to any Hardy boat of the older type, as a former employee of Hardy Marine it was a one man job. If anyone in the future need to fit one I am willing and able to do this job and show you how it was done.
Simon Papendick
Former Hardy Marine employee
Now owner of J-Star Boat Services
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Message 11 of 15
Posted by member Mike Williams on Monday 19 April 2010
It took three people 4 hours to fit anew fender last week to our Hardy 25 and cost £450 (inc. VAT) so that sounds about right.
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Message 10 of 15
Posted by member Steve Hook on Sunday 18 April 2010
Hi Mark..Its quite a simple job if the boats out of the water...If its not you will have to lean over the edge of the boat or work from a bank/pontoon......Im assuming you have a pilot...First if you have time soak the rope in Thompson waterseal a silicone based liquid this will in my opinion stop the rope rotting (diy/builders merchants & use an old dustbin......For fitting
1. Fold the rope in half & put some tape around to mark the center.
2. On the bow there is a small wood block that just holds the rope, line this up with your tape mark.
3. Run the rope along each side of the boat & sit it on the wood trims...To support the rope whilst you do this just use a few lengths of string looped around the rope to convenient place on deck (cleats/guard wire)
4. Inside the rope is a steel wire. Thread a length of the cord supplied with the rope(3 or 4 mm ) into the rope around the wire & back out of the rope & tie to the metal fixings either side on the bow end.
5.The last bit is to tie off the loops at each end of the rope to the metal loop fixings either side of the engine bay at the stern.....the instructions show making a winch between the rope ends but i found that if you use a large cable tie first to connect the rope to the metal loop on each side & pull on these tight to tension the rope..then when your happy with the fit tie off the rope ends to the loops with cord & cut away the ties.
Good luck & it should only take less than 2 hours
Steve
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Message 9 of 15
Posted by member Mark on Saturday 17 April 2010
Hi Johnathan
Do you still have the fitting instructions as i have the fender but not fitted with the boat i purchased,
little confused as to how the forward lashings work
Regards
Mark
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Message 8 of 15
Posted by member James Lewis on Saturday 2 May 2009
Hi steve,
Thanks for your comments, I will give it ago and take your advice with the water seal.......and certainly lift the boat out first !
many thanks
James
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Message 7 of 15
Posted by member Steve Hook on Friday 1 May 2009
Hi James.
I purchased mine a few years ago direct from Hardy marine & fitted it myself instructions come with the rope.....Very simple to fit just a matter of tying it on.......Ideally best done with the boat out of the water...but not impossible whilst afloat.....good luck......Ps I soaked mine in thompsons water seal in a dustbin for a couple of days & then let it dry out.....really does stop the rot.....Available from builedrs merchents/diy stores about a gallon & half needed..good luck Steve
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Message 6 of 15
Posted by member James Lewis on Wednesday 29 April 2009
Can anyone help me out here ? I have a Hardy pilot 20 and am in need of a new rope fender, where would be the best place to purchase, also how difficult would it be to install, is it a specialist job?
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Message 5 of 15
Posted by member Fernley Harris on Wednesday 24 January 2007
I HAVE JUST HAD ROPE FENDER REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A NEW ONE BY COSALT:MARLIFT PLYMOUTH. THE JOB WAS CARRIED OUT BY TWO RIGGERS AND THE EXCELLENT JOB TOOK TOOK TWO HOURS.THE TOTAL COST WAS £350 INCLUSIVE OF VAT,lABOUR AND TRAVEL TIME.THEY ALSO FITTED PROTECTION TO THE FENDER BELOW THE DECK DRAINS PORT AND STARBOARD AT NO EXTRA COST. THIS WAS A FAIR PRICE DUE TO QUALITY OF THE WORK AND THE SUPPLY OF GOOD MATERIAL.
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Message 4 of 15
Posted by member Peter on Sunday 31 December 2006
When replacing the rope rather than tie fiddley bits of rope you get with it use cable ties big ones that just fit through the eyes at the back 2 bottle screws wich you can retighten after it becomes slack with streching make sure you thread the cable ties through the wire in the middle of the rope which is what really holds it on Peter Hardy 20 ms
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Message 3 of 15
Posted by member Mike Caffry on Friday 10 March 2006
Have also to replace rope on family pilot 20. What treatment, if any is needed to waterproof/extend the life of the rope prior to installation please? Does using builders waterproofing liquid (as suggested elsewhere on the site) work or should it be avoided.
Thanks in anticipation
Mike C
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Message 2 of 15
Posted by member Jonathan Kemp on Wednesday 8 March 2006
I have a 20ft pilot- which I bought without the rope. I called Hardy and they sent a new rope with instructions and ties for about £250.
I was going to fit it myself - but the instructions sounded complicated. I asked the yard I use to quote for fitting - thinking it would be a few quid - the quote came back at £360 + Vat.
When I suggested this was a bit high - they claimed it was a 2 man job and took 4 - 5 hours?
I'm now back to doing it myself - but is it a 2 man job that takes over half a day?
The boat is on a trailer at the moment - so a good height to work at....
Thanks !
Jonathan
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Message 1 of 15
Posted by member John Aldridge on Wednesday 8 March 2006
Same story as you. Became the proud owner of Kismet IV last Feb. Same price for the rope. Took mum and myself 1/2 a day to fit (including some 'fancy' bindings and lashings not really required). First fitting took 2 1/2 hours and we mis-aligned the ends by one inch. 15 mins to remove and MARK THE CENTER of the rope. Fit center mark on block at the bow. Lash 1st loop port, 1st loop stbd, 2nd loop port,2nd loop stbd and so on. Spanish windlass works but is difficult as the rope you twist to pull up slack sits where the lashings go, but is possible. We managed without a fid, using a large pair of tapered nose pliers to pull the lashing cords through the lay of the rope (twist the rope to open the lay and loop slip-knotted cords around the stretcher wire. pull tight. free end through eye on hull. pull tight. open the lay of the rope and wind cords around, pulling them into the middle of the rope. tuck in ends.) Second time around, 1 1/2 hours. Word of warning, if you are pulling the cord tight enough you will blister your fingers so wear gardening glove. Rope has not moved or gone slack so I assume I got it right. have faith and have a go, it really is that easy.
Best Regards,
John A.
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