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Message 17 of 17
Posted by member Greg Dauer on Monday 5 March 2007

I'm trying to get into contact with Ino Balzan. Please have him email me at gdauer@cobitcoinc.com. Thank you, Greg Dauer

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Message 16 of 17
Posted by member John Terry on Sunday 21 August 2005

Bill Le Page. Dear Bill if you still have the Honda 45 I am interested. you can call me on 01267 236613 regards John Terry.

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Message 15 of 17
Posted by member John Terry on Sunday 24 July 2005

Where does one look to find out if a bulk head is not fitted in the pilot?.if fitted is it aft, midships or forward? sure would appreciate some info. thanks. John.

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Message 14 of 17
Posted by member Charlie Stitt on Wednesday 6 July 2005

Ino, OXALIC ACID will remove rust stains etc but be careful with its use as it can damage the gelcoat if not washed off properly after a short period. Many woodworkers use it to take stains etc out off old wood, I have also used it to remove black stains from a mohagany boat before varnishing.You can get it from a good timber merchant, some chemists stock it or look it up on the internet.

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Message 13 of 17
Posted by member Angus Geddes on Tuesday 5 July 2005

Ino, Try useing acetic acid i.e vinigar. No gaurantee

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Message 12 of 17
Posted by member Ino Balzan on Wednesday 22 June 2005

Some stains appeared on the top of the front cabin of my Pilot 2o, could someone, give me a hint how I can remove these brown, rust type stains. Thanking you, ino balzan from Malta.

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Message 11 of 17
Posted by member Dave Green on Sunday 19 June 2005

I have a Navigator with a 50hp Honda 4 stroke and suffer from nose up at low speed I am thinking about wedges but need more info on fitment can any one help cheers!

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Message 10 of 17
Posted by member Pete French on Thursday 26 May 2005

Bill, Do you know if the OMC wedges fit for a Pilot with the Honda 75? It appears that Honda do not make such a part. Also, would any UK dealer be able to get them - I've been trying to track a parts database on the web without success, to get an idea of price, availability, etc. Many thanks.... Pete

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Message 9 of 17
Posted by member Bill Le Page on Tuesday 22 February 2005

Allen Thanks for the info Bill

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Message 8 of 17
Posted by member Bill Le Page on Thursday 17 February 2005

Allen, I am fitting QL tabs (supplied by Volvo Penta) size 12''x8''. Have overcome curve of transom by having fitted wooden blocks(made of Ash).I had a carpenter make the blocks taking into account the curve and squaring off to accommodate the trim plates. The blocks are silkoflexed and bolted to the hull.(SUGGEST FITTING THIS WAY).If you screw to the hull you will find that you are only screwing into the hull,as there is no marine ply built into this part of the transom. Regarding the wedges,these are made of cast aluminium and the engine brackets are mounted on these. The wedges allow for a more positive contact between engine bracket and transom.Also allows for more down tilt of the engine to keep the bow down. I said in previous comment that trim tabs would cure the nose down problem,of course I meant nose up problem. The wedges are available from OMC dealers (Johnson or Evinrude) part number 504311. You may need to fit two layers depending on the angle of the transom. Bill Le Page (when purchasing wedges tell supplier what engine you have)

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Message 7 of 17
Posted by member Angus Geddes on Wednesday 16 February 2005

Plastic foam between the bulkhead and the hull is a very effective system - you can use a closed cell foam.I reckon about a 1 inch section strip for a small boat but you will be able to tell, if it looks right it is. It stops the hard spot formed by the hull and bulkhead joint which will lead to stress fractures around the join area. the join should be chopped strand mat not woven rovings as I erroneously mentioned before.

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Message 6 of 17
Posted by member Bill Le Page on Tuesday 15 February 2005

Angus,thanks for reply have put your info to a couple of GRP guys over here in Guernsey and i will let know there opinion. One chap has suggested that on fixing a bulkhead,a plastic foam should be layered on the inside of the bulkhead before glassing,to prevent cracking of the hull. Interesting eh! Will reply with more as I receive more info. Regards Bill Le Page

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Message 5 of 17
Posted by member Angus Geddes on Sunday 13 February 2005

Bill, it is possible to build a bulkhead into a boat. I have put one into a 24 footer. Cut Marine ply bulkhead - 24 or 10 mm from memory - and glassed it in. Getting the correct cross section at the point you want the bulkhead will be entertaining! Fit the ply into place. You could do it in two sections and join it in the middle. The itchy bit is preparing the GRP hull for glassing in the joint - i.e. abrading the hull grp to accept the new joint. Plenty of acetone on the old GRP first, then stipple in the new woven rovings around the bulkhead hull join until it is sealed and good and strong. ensuring adequate ventilation with a powerfull fan helps otherwise you will be high as a kite on the styrene fumes. Some may enjoy this experience?

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Message 4 of 17
Posted by member Bill Le Page on Sunday 13 February 2005

Thanks for your reply Allen. I use my Hardy In Guernsey waters and it has proved to be underpowered with the current engine, a 45hp Honda 4 stroke. The boat was only achieving 7 to 8 knots with 2 to three up. At this speed it was wallowing a lot on entry to marina in amongst other boats entering & exiting the marina. I am in the process of fitting trims tabs which will cure the nose down problem, which seems inherent due to the angle of the transom. I am replacing the engine either with a 90hp 2 stroke Johnson or a 70hp 4stroke evinrude(they both way about the same). The Johnson is a bit of an overkill but I would not attempt to go at full throttle. But the torque is there when I need especially in these waters. I will also be fitting aluminium wedges to compensate for the lack of angle on the transom. If you need any detail on how to fit the trim tabs or where to get the aluminium wedges please ask. Regards Bill Le Page PS if anyone reading this is interested in purchasing the Honda,get in touch.

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Message 3 of 17
Posted by member Allen on Sunday 13 February 2005

Info on the trim tabs would be great I bought a Mariner 60 big foot for my boat I was thinking on buying trim tab that are sold by nautequipe.co.uk it does not say who makes them either 250*200mm or 250*285mm has anyone tried these. Bill not sure what u mean about the aluminium wedges any advice most welcome cheers. I would also like to find out more about the fitting of the bulkhead.

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Message 2 of 17
Posted by member Allen on Thursday 10 February 2005

How well does ur river pilot perform at sea as apart from this missing bulk head that every one talks about I can see little if any difference in hull shape to the fimal pilot. I have just bought a river pilot my self and intend to use it only on coastal waters so id be intrested to hear ur experiences also what size engine r u using?

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Message 1 of 17
Posted by member Bill Le Page on Thursday 3 February 2005

Is it possible to build in bulkheads to the river pilot? I use mine quite often on the sea (in calm waters obviously).

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