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Message 27 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Tuesday 21 August 2007

The rope still looks fine. (A little more grey may be...) Have been doing some fishing last years, but cleaning of the rope is easy with hot water and mild detergent (soap). And it will not rott... :-)

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Message 26 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Friday 22 September 2006

After one year the rope is still (almost) white. Looks fine! Do not think the Regatta will look the same without a rope...

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Message 25 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Sunday 7 May 2006

Have found supplier of white rope here in Norway. If someone is interresting, mail me at marwin7074@hotmail.com

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Message 24 of 27
Posted by member Stephen Pickthall on Thursday 16 March 2006

I think that you will find langmans as noted in previous mail , of the Netherlands your best bet. Their order form is quite simple, to understand and I am told that their product is excellent.

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Message 23 of 27
Posted by member Mike Cullen on Tuesday 14 March 2006

White Nylon Fender Rope I want to fit one of these to my Seawings 194 but can't find a Supplier, I know Marwin in Norway found one, but is there one in the UK? Jon Feltham found one but appears to be no longer available! can anyone help with this problem?

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Message 22 of 27
Posted by member Keith Williams on Monday 6 February 2006

Having just removed the coir rope fender to my recently purchased Hardy 24 Fisher, despite growth appears in good condition (although two of the retaining eyes need reinstating - presumably with pop rivets). It would be most helpful to know from anyone else who has struggled replacing the fender whether it is best to start at the bows and work down each side and if is there a recommended tying down knot to the eyes? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Message 21 of 27
Posted by member Phil Cook on Monday 6 February 2006

Keith, Prior to purchasing a replacment try rotating your existing one 180 degrees it just may not look so tired. This beast if wet is a real hernia job, however a nice dry new one is a doddle to fit & looks really fab, for a while.... The following is based on my own experience last season and the assumption that your vessel is out of the briny otherwise forget it... The method: firstly centre the fender from the bow. Suspend it right around the hull with line from ss guardrails/cleats this not only takes the weight but allows you to centre it with ease. Once centred work the fender into the recessed hull moulding running it astern from both sides at the same time. Replacing the eye straps dependent on your hulls integrity I would use ss self tappers or go through the hull using ss nuts a bolts with overside washers as always use copious amounts of Sikaflex. Tips: Forget those fiddly Knots and associated blisters, replace all cord with heavy duty nylon cable ties this keeps the fender much tighter to the hull and they don't rot. Ensure the Nylon ties are worked around the central inner steel core and not just through the coir rope this ensures an even tighter bond of the fender within the hull recess. Should you experience problems with the stern bottle screws meeting up with the through stern U bolts bring both ends of the fender together at the stern with a ''Ratchet webbing tie down'' this will provide enough purchase to bring the bottle screws to meet up with the stern U bolts. The coir fender manufacturer details and most of Hardy's other OEM suppliers are viewable in the members only section of the Hardy Owners Club web site.

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Message 20 of 27
Posted by member Graham Green on Saturday 10 December 2005

I have just purchased a Seawings 234 and the coir fender has started to deteriorate so I am contemplating a replacement so any info would be helpful Must admit I am having difficulty finding info about the 234 however, I have received a copy of the PBO report but owners findings seem to be thin on the ground Hardy’s staff don’t seem to know much about these craft and for as much as they have been very pleasant haven’t been able to help Main problem is water ingress from bow area and at galley although I believe the fwd problem to be coming from the anchor locker, Hardy’s seem to have forgotten to glass the fwd bulkhead to the u/side of the deck!! Anyone else had this problem?

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Message 19 of 27
Posted by member Phil Cook on Monday 1 August 2005

SSCS Lifting, based in Great Yarmouth are the manufacturers of Hardy Coir rope fenders. In my experience a direct call will result in a perfect re-placement fender at a reasonable price. Prior to contacting ensure you have the precise length & diameter of your coir fender and style of end fitments, fender length data can be obtained from Hardy Marine, thus avoiding the requirment of removing the fender yourself to take precise measurements. ''Don't take any measurments with the fender in situ'' As most HC members would have a coir fender fitted to their vessels it could prove prudent to make a note of SSCS details for future reference. Web www.sscslifting.co.uk E/mail sales@sscsystems.com Tel: 01493 443380

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Message 18 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Saturday 23 July 2005

The new rope is white, and will become a little grey over time. Working fine and looks elegant on the Regatta....

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Message 17 of 27
Posted by member Mike on Sunday 3 April 2005

Hi there I’ve just bought a Family pilot and been on the phone to Hardy for a number of different things. I cannot see where the people here are getting there prices for rope fender as one of the items I was on to them for was the rope fender and I was quoted £225xvat and £14 delivery so I suggest anyone interested should phone again

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Message 16 of 27
Posted by member Jon Feltham on Friday 1 April 2005

I can obtain 64mm polyprop rope in white with wire through middle and eyes to attach to boat. 8 strand plait . picture available of rope fitted to Seawings 234. price approx £325. depending on rope thickness & length. any enquires to rascal@westrudham.freeserve.co.uk or 07973918024

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Message 15 of 27
Posted by member Steve Pickthall on Monday 17 January 2005

I used a product called 'Fabsil' on my old Pilot . It is available from tent shops/Milletts etc and is used for waterproffing tents fabrics. Found it worked well, and slowed the detiorating process but after a while i am afraid the sea / salt /elements still took their toll.

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Message 14 of 27
Posted by member Angus Geddes on Monday 17 January 2005

Fabsil is essentially a liquid silicone, a cheaper alternative is damp proofing products from a builders merchant which is a clear liquid...smells exactly the same and seems to work. It will repel the water on the rope and sounds like a good idea. I also liked the idea of useing wood preservative on the rope. (useing a clear one) It ought to be possible to do the wood preserver first then the silicone. I will try it when I get a new fender!

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Message 13 of 27
Posted by member Eddy on Sunday 16 January 2005

I did ask a rope manufacturer how to preserve a coir rope. They told me that because coir is a natural fibre , wood preservative can be used. They recomend saturating it to the core on a regular basis.My only doubt is , will the preservative damage the gelcoat? Preservative that I have used around the garden smells of solvent?? Maybe someone can advise on this point

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Message 12 of 27
Posted by member John Mason on Saturday 15 January 2005

The rope fender on my navigator grows moss any ideas how to combat this would be welcome. John

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Message 11 of 27
Posted by member Charlie Stitt on Monday 25 October 2004

I think rope fenders on Hardys are a bit rip-off, I am re-furbishing my hardy 24, the old rotton rope has been removed and the hull cleaned and polished. Looks much better now with NO Rope, Thinking about fitting a small mahogang piece in the groove around stem.I contacted Hardy Marine and they quoted me over £600 for a re-placment rope fender which they say would last about five years, NO WAY.

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Message 10 of 27
Posted by member Charlie Stitt on Monday 25 October 2004

I think rope fenders on Hardys are a bit rip-off, I am re-furbishing my hardy 24, the old rotton rope has been removed and the hull cleaned and polished. Looks much better now with NO Rope, Thinking about fitting a small mahogang piece in the groove around stem.I contacted Hardy Marine and they quoted me over £600 for a re-placment rope fender which they say would last about five years, NO WAY.

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Message 9 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Saturday 23 October 2004

The polyamid-rope (perlon) is in place. I had to drill more 2mm holes to secure the rope around the boat. Looks fine, but only drawback is perhaps that the rope is white, and will become gray over time...

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Message 8 of 27
Posted by member Richard Owen on Saturday 21 February 2004

I've recently purchased a new coir rope fender for my Hardy 18 Day Fisher. Andrew, in his comment above, mentioned Lanolin. Where can I buy this solution? Thanks, in anticipation, Richard

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Message 7 of 27
Posted by member Jock on Sunday 15 February 2004

We are delighted with the ''Langman'' polypropylene rope. It looks very good and won't rot. It's quite easy to fit but takes time. Don't be worried that it seems short as it streaches a bit and needs taking up slowly over a few days. Just measure exactly as Langmans request. I have put some detailed photos onto our web site. http://www.creran-moorings.co.uk. Look at the bottom of the moorings page. They are Dolphin 1, 2 and 3. If you need any information you will find my email address and telephone number on the web site.

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Message 6 of 27
Posted by member Madhu Barai on Saturday 7 February 2004

Hi Jock I have contacted the Dutch firm (www.langman.nl) and am considering buying and fitting the polyprop fender. The questions I have are: a) does the polyprop fender look right in terms of colour, texture and general apprearance for the Hardy Pilot? I would not want to change the beautiful classic lines. b) Have you done anything additional such as plastic/leather sheath at the deck drainage points abeam?

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Message 5 of 27
Posted by member Jock Slorance on Sunday 6 July 2003

I bit the bullet and have now bought and fitted a 4 strand 62mm diam. polyprop. rope from a firm in the Netherlands. See www.langman.nl. (a most helpful company) It looks superb, is beautifully finished with tapered whipped ends and comes complete with stainless wire and bottle screws. Perhaps a bit expensive at 519 euros but should last for ever.

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Message 4 of 27
Posted by member Mike Williams on Wednesday 30 April 2003

My chemistry stopped in secondary school. Could you share the name of the ingredients, proportions and suggestions as to suppliers please? Anything that may stop the rope rotting is worth a try.

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Message 3 of 27
Posted by member Andrew Lawrence on Sunday 20 April 2003

Take the rope off every once in a while and treat it with Lanolin. My rope is twelve years old this season and while not perfect shows no signs of rot. Where the sea washes out through the self draining deck over the rope I have impregnated the rope with a polymer mix, which does not detract from its appearance but makes it impervious to water stains and rot. I am a public analysis so its quite easy to make up solutions.

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Message 2 of 27
Posted by member Marwin In Norway on Wednesday 12 March 2003

Just got a polyamid-rope (perlon) (8 times ribbon plait) to use for rope fender. Will try to mount it in the spring. The big trick will be to secure the ends... More about this when the work is done.

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Message 1 of 27
Posted by member Marwin in Norway on Thursday 15 August 2002

Former owner of my Regatta monted a new original fender-rope 4 years ago, and now it is rotten (falling apart!) Q: Does anyone know where to find another type of rope for a fender? (Nylon must be better) Or should the original rope had been treated with special impregnate oil from day 1 and every year thereafter?

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