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Message 17 of 17
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Wednesday 1 July 2020

* Think I've found another solution...

Now going to try using "double hinges" on the lower door, that will then enable a much greater fold-back. This will negate the need to trim a piece off the upper fold-down section as proposed in my sketch of 27 June, and a significantly simpler job!

The only ones so far identified are nickel plated steel made by Penn Elcom - easily available on ebay at £2.95 each. I've bought three in case two do not do job. If I can find brass or stainless somewhere, I will probably swap them for next year if these do the job.

Not sure yet until we get back to boat if the extra section of hinge will be over door or over frame - I have made some spacers to aid fitting on to front of helm panel if needed. I will photo when job done.

May need an extra bolt on the inside of the lower door, on the hinge side, to secure against any likely slight floppiness of the door on the extended hinge.

Clive

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Message 16 of 17
Posted by member Mark Dell on Tuesday 30 June 2020

I am going to have another look soon as I may be able to swing out the door and lower the top section on its hinges to miss the obstruction perhaps

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Message 15 of 17
Posted by member Mark Dell on Tuesday 30 June 2020

Blast! Canít do this modification on my Bosun because the door would swing into the frame of the door under the other seat. Gutted!

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Message 14 of 17
Posted by member Mark Dell on Sunday 28 June 2020

This is a great idea thanks for posting it, I am planning to do the same on Ruby Ann it will be great to not have to find somewhere to put the door when getting on board - thanks!

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Message 13 of 17
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Sunday 28 June 2020

* Clive,
I used stainless steel piano hinge fixed to edge of doors. It means you can offset hinge to clear butt hinges on bottom door.

I also fitted bronzed finger pull handle to help open top door only from cabin side without slamming down onto lower door.

Like your detailed sketch.

Regards,
Kenny

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Message 12 of 17
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Saturday 27 June 2020

* It took us a while, but we have finally implemented Kenny's solution (see his photo below) of a hinge-down upper door panel, which has solved some stowage issues of the loose panel in the cockpit. The upper door now folds neatly down over the lower door, and the lower door hinges open as before. Easy solution - just needed to screw two nice brass hinges to outside of door when in closed position.

Except... slightly daftly unforeseen, the lower door now of course does not open back as far as before, because the upper panel, when folded down, now prevents it from doing so, in fact to somewhat less than 90deg. Though Kenny has acheived greater than 90deg by the look of his photo.

The only proposed solution I have so far is to cut a 3/4" piece (carefully with guided jigsaw) off the side of the upper panel, and then turn this round and attach it to the door frame as shown in this sketch, thus allowing the folded down door panels to hinge back further than 90deg to around 110deg. The door does not need to fold back further, due to the helm seat (if hinged up into seating position) or lifebuoy mounted below the helm (if helm seat is hinged down to its stowage position).

Anyone got any better ideas?

Thanks,
Clive

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Message 11 of 17
Posted by member Clive ffitch on Wednesday 9 May 2018

Neat idea Kenny, I like it. Think I'll think about doing that on Adele. Easy one to do once afloat.
Thanks!
Clive

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Message 10 of 17
Posted by member Alan on Tuesday 24 April 2018

Thanks for your reply.This is another option to look at. I think I might have to make some mockups and see which works the best on my boat. Itís great to get other ideas from people who actually use their boats.
Thanks again
Alan

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Message 9 of 17
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 21 April 2018

* Cabin door open position.

Kenny

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Message 8 of 17
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Saturday 21 April 2018

* Cabin boor closed position.

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Message 7 of 17
Posted by member Kenny Clark on Wednesday 18 April 2018

Gents,

Slightly different approach on HP20. Bi-fold full width cabin door with top panel hinged to bottom panel on lift off hinges. Keeps both panels together and allows lift off, stow away next to helm.

Kenny

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Message 6 of 17
Posted by member Alan on Tuesday 17 April 2018

Sorry for delay in getting back to you.. I think the bi-fold set up may be the way to go. Just need to see how they sit when open. Thanks again
Alan

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Message 5 of 17
Posted by member Simon Papendick on Tuesday 10 April 2018

Hi Alan,
Looking at the photo. The photo is a a photo of the original door which as been cut in two to make a bi fold door. The top door was normally put on the top of the toilet compartment lid as this was useful to many owners as a place to store it when underway.

Regards
Simon Papendick

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Message 4 of 17
Posted by member Phil ashton on Monday 2 April 2018

* Hi, cant say what original was but this is what i did to the door in my Navigator ..

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Message 3 of 17
Posted by member Alan on Saturday 31 March 2018

* Thanks for the reply. In the photo my new hatch is in the seagoing position. A second hinge on the forward end allows tithe whole thing to open to sit vertical when full access is required. The door part is at the moment a single piece of ply which due to its size is awkward to stow away . I was wondering what the original setup would have been when built I.e washboards or a two piece door hinged at either end with a vertical split. If this was the case did they open into the cabin or out into the wheelhouse.
Cheers
Alan

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Message 2 of 17
Posted by member Simon Papendick on Thursday 29 March 2018

Hi Alan,
Could take some photos of what you have done so I have a better idea of what you are trying to do.
I worked for Hardy Marine from 1983 to 1990. So I will be able to point you in the right direction.
Kind regards
Simon Papendick
Fromer hardy marine employee

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Message 1 of 17
Posted by member Alan on Sunday 25 March 2018

I am doing up my 17ph and would like to know what the original method for securing the cabin. I have already replaced the flat top section with two part hinged setup which works quite well. I am looking for ideas for what is really the door. The cabin was pretty stripped out ,no cushions etc, so any internal photos of 17ph/ navigator would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Alan

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